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Possibly the nuns coerced the kids in those classes into giving more? After about a year it didnt seem to grow as fast but I put it down to my own spending habits. (After Vatican II beanies were no longer necessary.) My family Lived out that way. Pagan Babies is a 2000 crime novel written by Elmore Leonard.He first used Pagan Babies as the name of a rock band in his 1981 novel Split Images.. The problems were global, structural, and often ambiguous. Over 50, attended Catholic schools from 1970-77 in Latin America. The Holy Childhood Association got many of the basics right: it introduced me to global realities of poverty and need, to notions of privilege and responsibility. When five dollars was collected the box would go.somewhere ..and a new box would be folded out by the teacher . , Those madcap Catholics. This reading is starting to stir up memories of holy water, chapel caps, rosaries that lit up a green color in the bed at night, memorizing the Catechism in case the Arch-Bishop asked me a question at our Confirmation, being chosen to carry up the gifts, and on and on. Father Terry Dunn thought he'd seen everything on the mean streets of Detroit, but that was before he went on a little retreat to Rwanda to evade a tax-fraud indictment. And in pagan lands, there are pagan babies. Any questions ? An interactive Web site will feature video interviews with some of the former pagan babies, now nuns, priests and catechists carrying on the Lords work in their homelands. I do agree that the biggest thrill was the goal of the reward of getting to actually choose a name for an unknown child & therefore beat our class opponents! I went Catholic school in NJ and yes, we had pagan babies! Great mix of early US HC punk & the then emerging "Youth Crew" sound. Some we're pretty outrageous!" Ill bet you remember those . And yesyou know who you are. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. Each classroom was given small cardboard collection boxes . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. I got JUG in high school - Jesuits a few times. My parents and the good (well mostly good) sisters tried the best they could based on their beliefs. At times, it seemed like the nuns in the Catholic School I was attending, would really pressure the students to contribute to the pagan babies. That reflects a certain dignified sincerity on your part , I think . Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. When the principal had signed on to a candy sale fundraising scheme because the promotion companys salesman gave him a stereo system as a gift to grease the wheels , the salesman spoke to the students for a few minutes at the morning assembly . Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who once said, My greatest love has always been the missions of the church, was very much a spiritual presence at the dinner, where his name was invoked several times. I knew immediately what you were referring to even though we never went to church & I went to public school. Required fields are marked *. I had my little yellow UNICEF box, and they asked if it was for the Pagan Babies. If only we could all do so well with five bucks , eh ? I have no idea what spurred me on this morning to do a search for Pagan Babies maybe I was trying to recall my first exposure to racism. I think the whole pagan babies thing was to give us something concrete to hold onto, plus those certificates that we got and plus, of course, naming rights all in the name of raising money for the Churchs missionary work. My first lessons in social justice came through saving pagan babies. Sports. A different time ; a different place . I think there was some small prize involved for any student that sold them. In the book, Pope Francis also addresses corruption at the Vatican, abuses committed by members of the Church, the COVID-19 pandemic, Russias invasion of Ukraine, among other topics. The money collected in the United States went to help feed, clothe and educate them. Don't know why they are so eagerly upholding pagan traditions. . Such a mitzvah. . Davey; Especially loud clunkers could turn heads and ignite giggles. I remember the rice bowls but no actual rice. Bog bodies, secret passages, and amazing tombstones are all possibilities as well as the latest archaeological discovery. . In our class it was the boys vs the girls. Whats a pagan ? The only money we collected in little paper boxes was for UNICEF and to be perfectly honest, Im not even entirely sure what UNICEF is. Love Your Sister I cant remember now if they ever answered Charlies question . Good question , though , about where all the money went . Catholic Dopers >age 50- does the term "pagan babies" ring a bell? We sold The Tidings , which was the L.A. Archdiocese newspaper , and there were prizes . My mother was horrified. . Wow. Went to Holy Name Grade School and when my friend was writing a book including some Catholic characters ( she is not Catholic), my fellow Holy Name and I gave her the pagan baby story to include, complete with only the rich kids got to name the baby since the rest of us did not have the means to save $5. What readers of her book talked about the most was either Is there really such a thing a pagan babies thats hilarious or Oh yes, I remember saving up during Lent to get to name a pagan baby. Thanks for the memories. If they're actually disabled, they can file the application with the city to get a handicap spot installed. The certificates were white, thick,wrinkly paper with burnt orange and brown late 60s modern catholic designs. I know its not a politically correct term, but babies are not getting baptized or raised in the faith. A set or two of golf clubs may have been in there . The concept, A lot of your story is fiction. Yeah , a few days later . Patti and her husband, Mark, live in North Dakota where they raised their 10 children. I still say none of that money ever got beyond the archdiocese downtown , certificate or no certificate . But I was in the mist of all of the Catholic Truths and those truths just werent ringing true to me. I had one certificate for But I remember that we did get certificates sent to us from the Society for the Propagation of the Faith with the babys name. I just re-read your comment and am laughing about all that back then . Thanks for your thoughtful comment . The teachers all smiled . Theres the priority. Hey! Youre too late. - Ann C. I kept a large plastic Seagrams Seven bottle bank in my room at home that I put all my loose change into to save up for stuff I wanted and an occasional pagan baby. Then we got a certificate and the children got a medal. Of course, there was always the show-off who bought a whole pegginbebbie for themselves and got to name it without any of OUR help. 6:34, Col. 2:1112). Do you know if I could list my pagan baby on my tax return as a dependent? However, this 2012 article from Catholic News Service might be of interest: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202140.htm. And so I traveled to Guaymas in the Sonoran desert expecting to accomplish great things. catholic school 1978-1991. In Catholic school in San Francisco in the Sixties, we also collected for the pagan babies daily, and got to name the baby once we had five dollars. Biographies are listed below: 1. I dont think he really believed me. Every month after the money was collected, a students name was "randomly"picked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the "Pagan Baby of the Month.". Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told Catholic New York, the archdiocesan newspaper, that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. The publics had no idea what we were talking about. J. OBrien. My romantic notions of missionary work got a dose of reality that summer. But the pagan babies were actual children being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests in their countries. in the classroom to see who had the most babies. Holy Hacks: Everyday Ways to Live Your Faith & Get to Heaven, Youth Pilgrims Write a New Chapter for South Sudan, Catholic Bookstore Sues Jacksonville Over Law it Says is a Trans Pronoun Mandate, Heres How Half of U.S. Abortions Could Be Stopped This Week, Argentina: New Book Gives Pope Francis Responses to Issues Hes Most Often Asked About. My most cherished reward for raising money for the missions was a Madonna-and-Child nightlight that graced my bedside table well into adolescence. - Sharon S. https://www.ncregister.com/blog/where-did-all-the-pagan-babies-go. Maybe it was a Toledo thing?! At first, Sister tried to dissuade me from using Karen, as this was not a name on the published roster of saints. with any faith. In order to raise money for the missions, the grade school students were asked to bring in pennies and nickels to save a Pagan Baby. A kid in my class took a five dollar bill from his mother ( without her knowledge ) and a similar result happened . When I was in the fifth or sixth grade, a neighbor who was my age, took 12 books of S & H Green Stamps ( remember those ) and contributed them to the pagan babies program. monetization of National Catholic Register RSS feeds is strictly prohibited. Boy , does all of that ring true to me ! Maybe the kids of today are more savvy . His name is Seth (pretty sure he still has that job, but it cant hurt to check). No one was, in fact, adopted or bought. Im thinking, maybe, that I qualify as a pagen baby. Hooo, yes. My allowance was 25 cents a week . But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. Watch for these changes, Eight more pro-life activists for FACE Act violations. Thanks for your comment . Pagan babies may have disappeared from collection boxes but they started showing up in our families. That $5.00 bought you naming rights. Pagan babies are certainly a uniquely Catholic childhood memory! Years later, as adults, my younger sister, Patricia, confessed to sneaking into my room and using a butter knife to weasel the coins out of the bottle to buy candy and, yes, pagan babies. Charlie stood up to his full height of about four foot three , his head held high , a serious look on his face . Bonus question: Did children in Europe collect coins for the pagan babies? I stole your Money so that I could lend it back to You and Tim with Interest!!!!!!!!! For whatever reason, we googled pagan baby today.My husband and I thought we were the only two people who remembered pagan babies!!!! Scotland, late 60s/early 70s, Catholic primary school (ages 5-12) we had this, only we called it something like the black baby fund, rather than pagan babies. Charlie had a question for the missionary nuns , too . In Common Good Constitutionalism, Adrian Vermeule argues with straw men and cites blog posts. The nuns tried to keep us on the Catholic path, but they had a lot of competition with of the civil rights movements of the time. every cent counts and just know the things we take for granted and have, these amazing . Students gave their allowances to save At least it didnt include the genocide of the indigenous population as it did here in CA when the Spaniard priests took on the mission of converting the Indians. I taught in Catholic schools in the 1970s and pagan babies were a thing of the past ( as far as I know ; but never underestimate the nuns ). JMJ, yes! When she told me about her Catholic School classes (she went from K 9) in New Jersey, I was floored. Its a wonderful window on the old days , isnt it ? I ended up with about five babies!" They also helped keep things quiet. Does ANYONE know where the money did go? St. Paul noted that baptism replaces circumcision and circumcision was for infants. Glad you enjoyed it . The Church doesnt have a mission. 1:16). Except in the case of fourth grade, 1964, just after the Beatles hit America on Sullivan. RENEE! It seemed like an honorable thing, he explained. He didnt say that the big winner was the salesman himself , who had spent only a couple of hours with the principal and with the students but now had three hundred children who would be desperately trying to sell his candy for the next two weeks . And most students did sacrifice that 5-cent candy money for the cause of bringing the word of god to the uneducated families somewhere in the world that the missionaries, usually Maryknolls stil active in missionary work today were working to convert the pagans usually Africa, in my day (probably deepest, darkest Africa). Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. Oh , well . If you want, you can contact the director of music programming at Hawaiian Public Radio, and ask him if hes still using it, though. own pagan baby! My dad was in the Navy out in the Pacific in WWII . (CCC 1213). Glad to have confirmed this for you , John . They took me down to Carmel Hall when I was around 10 or 11 and had me volunteer with the nuns. The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). I keep asking her where MY money was! It was pretty obvious he was showing off his flawless French accent. Hearts of Gold, A Gilded Age Historical Romance Series. We, the four oldest who got those tiny banks with a coin slot in the top, were convinced that our small amounts of money (most of which we found on the street while walking home from school, a lot of pennies) would buy us a Little Brown Pagan Baby that we would name Harry (I don't remember why) and that Jesus would love us for that purchase. Ask the deities of your pantheon to watch over the residents of your home. The one boys name that sticks in my head is Zachary. - Nancy K. I remember getting a plastic Virgin Mary statue , about 5 or 6 inches tall. Thanks for the comment . Pagan babies are certainly a unique experience us Catholic schoolkids share! The teacher lobbied for her but I still refused . Needless to say, Zachary stuck. Band Name!! Seems like the boxes looked like animal crackers boxes . I smell the mendacity in this room ! Its a mystery! Give a Gift SubscriptionBless friends, family or clergy with a gift of the Register. Once the amount was reached, all the names were added to the blackboard and we voted. Back in the 1950s and early-1960s, and possibly before that, the Catholic schools sponsored an ongoing drive to raise money for missions in foreign lands. We would use the proceeds to buy pagan babies. Same thing, just a more PC name. I dont think that the money went sideways. Years later Larry Bye , another boy in the class , told me that his middle name was Herman and that he had been embarrassed when Cary chose the name Herman for the pagan baby. a Pagan Baby but lost touch. Being a Jewish kid born and raised in South Philadelphia, I never heard about Pagan Babies until I married my Catholic Bride. Anyway , we never got pictures of our pagan babies . She thought that it would be the greatest thing in the world for me to become a nun. We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. I remember collecting for Pagan Babies in my Catholic elementary school (I went to public high schoolwith the publics). I went to Marymount Jr. School in the 60s too. They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Ask for their blessings so that your home will remain safe and happy, or if you do not follow a particular deity, you can alternately ask the . Their Pagan Babies: "Lord have mercy! : Its a mystery . NEW YORK - They were called "pagan babies," an appellation that would never be used today. I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. . One guy talked about confession when he was in third grade. - Vera Marie C. When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? (Matthew 25: 37-38). Youre stirring up memories . I guess this went on everywhere. Somewhere in the beachhead dump of stuff I call a filing system I have an adoption certificate which states that our class rescued some poor benighted child from the toils of Satan. A recent Pew Research Center study revealed that much of Christianity is significantly losing members. It seemed like an almost daily ordeal for the class nun to individually quiz each student, asking if they had made a contribution on that particular day. Saint Martins actoss the street from you back then. Thanks . Subscriber Service CenterAlready a subscriber? I still have the ransom certificate to prove it. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the May 2 gala. They felt the tuition they were paying was plenty. Good hunting , though . and if we sell ten of them , Charlie continued unperturbed , we get a pencil case ., And if we sell twenty , we get something else that none of us really wants . Other notable guests included Cardinal Sean P. OMalley of Boston; Bishop Bejoy N. DCruze of Sylhet, Bangladesh; actor Andy Garcia, who stars in the upcoming film For Greater Glory; and Noel Campbell, who rode Amtrak for three days from the Coeur DAlene Indian Reservation in northwest Idaho to attend the event. Catholic Register, more than one-third of millennials now say they are unaffiliated But Father Small, national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies in the United States, wasnt apologizing for the old adoption program in which children in Catholic schools would save their pennies. Cary Cox stole a five dollar bill from his mothers purse when we were in fourth grade so that Cary could pick the name of the next pagan baby himself . Small world. More than one-third of millennials now say they are unaffiliated with any faith. They were befuddled . I did the saving bond thing , too . You may be a pagan , but I think youre too late . I love the four Beatles pagan babies idea and the adultery thing ! But I assured her that my Karen went straight to heavenMonsignor had said so and celebrated a Mass of the angels in white vestments rather than the usual funeral Mass in her honor. Ah , yeah . Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. This is such a funny story to me, I also went to Catholic School in the sixties and I remember raising money for the Pagan babies I dont remember what prizes do we got or anything but now my daughter who is 35 was talking about how Catholics or Pagan worshippers. We went to Blessed Sacrament Grade School in LaCrosse and pagan baby buying was fierce and rampant; Within grades, boy / girl and between grades. Like using Necco wafers to practice First Holy Communion. When the late Sixties allowed for individuality in footwear, many a girl in funky, high-heeled shoes, broke the silence clunking through classrooms and down church aisles. 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