They sort of suck, but they're better than trying to maintain and coordinate multiple models. How did you "share" the folder. Make this a Central Model after save, Option unchecked & greyed out. At that point they just need to make that new file a central model again.Collaborate Tab > Click worksets button > then click "OK" to enable worksharing > then click "OK" again > then save and close the file. Go to the application menu and click on Save as, Project and name it the same as the original Central file name and in the original location. 2011-06-13, 09:42 PM #2. gvluisi. Central File Corrupt or Thumbnail Locking Issue Just a guess and this idea may have changed, but that how it used to work. Click Collaborate tab Manage Collaboration panel (Worksets). Opens all editable worksets. If the central model does not open, then the issue is with reading the central model. Once the file is open, Save As with a new file name (eg. In the future, I recommend using Design Options to create alternate layouts within a single model. Initial status is based on when the file was last opened. Saved it as my local file. Maybe the problem is that there is no workset or workset is not activated in the project which is why it's greyed out. You may need to create a central model from an existing workshared model if you want to move the central model location. To translate this article, select a language. In the Save As dialog, specify a file name and directory location for the central model. The option to Make this a Central Model after save is not actually an option to break work sharing, it is an option to either save a work shared model as a local to the central model or to create a new central model. Enabling worksharing involves creating a master project model, known as a central model, from an existing model. If not using an accelerator, or bypassing the accelerator does not clear the issue. All the other central files don't have this problem. Create a local file grayed out? "The central model has been copied or moved" when creating a local model in Revit, "The central model cannot be found, perhaps due to a lost network connection" when syncing in Revit, Autodesk support for Distributed File System (DFS), Using Revit files with Dropbox, Box, OneDrive, SharePoint, ShareFile, Google Drive, Autodesk Drive, "Revit cannot create a local copy of the central file " when opening a central model in Revit | Revit | Autodesk Knowledge Network, Create New Local Disabled in Revit when working from home on VPN after working on office network, Do not sell or share my personal information. You may also need to abandon the existing central model and want to use a local copy of the central model (rather than a backup of the central model) as the new central model. Go to Solution. If a central file (file A) is detached from central (itself) is it possible to reattach a Local file to the Detached central file if "File A" Ive got a revit file, I just want to make a local file but I cant it keeps wanting to be a central file after I open it (detach from central). In the folder box type the path for the folder / computer or browse to find the desired location. A couple more reasons the Create New Local option is disabled: The file does not have worksets enabled or the file is based on an older version of Revit than currently being used (meaning an upgrade is required). Specify different worksets or click OK to confirm the default. etc. In the Open workset default list, select one of the following. To translate this article, select a language. If it's only for Backup, why not just download the Central from the BIM360 (if published that is in the WIP and/or SHARED folder.). Find out which GUID corresponds to which model (if multiple models), the GUID is always identical unless the Central is recreated on BIM360. Then close the file completely and reopen it again. 3users could create new local and then sync. When create local file, there was still the file in my d drive but revit mep no longer asking for overwrite local file. The save local is greyed out for all my revit modles and it doesnt matter where its saved or the version I use. You may need to do this if, for example, a team member was working offline on a local copy of the central model and those changes need to remain in the project. I open my local file through Revit, check "Detach From Central", then try to do a Save As and it forces the detached local to become a Central model when saved. Opens all worksets in the central model. In the File Save Options dialog, select Make this a Central Model after save. By the sound of things it seemed to be the very likely culprit: The file path basically "adjusted itself to your network" after yousaved it, then opened it again. All users should save their own local copy of the central model, edit locally in this workspace, and then synchronize with central to publish changes to the central model so that other users can see their work. Another possible cause is a user has reverted back to a single user file (a dialogue box would have been displayed though warning them of this.) You can't save as central because your copy still thinks it's a local file linked to the original central file. Go to Solution. Its not so big problem. You need to find the "real" Central Model: Open the local file, click on Synchronize with Central, you should get the path of the actual Main Model. then you get the opinion to make a central model or not. Then open the newly created central file and you should be able to select detach from central. August 20, 2020, 04:46 PM. Local files folder is "My Documents" - which is a terrible choice. If it has no worksets, it cannot be a central model. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, " when creating a local from the central model">, "Revit cannot create a local copy from the central file ". I was googling and going through the help screens. It isAutodesk's default location for local files. Try saving a new file to the host server to check if the host is working. What is the path? I'm having an issue with Revit 2016, two computers have the Create New Local greyed out, while three other computers are fine. .maybe you are working directly in the central model? The Worksharing dialog displays, showing the default user-created worksets (Shared Levels and Grids, and Workset1). Close. Can't find what you're looking for? 3. If it's the original, save it as the new central using the "make this a central file" option and say yes when it asks if you want to overwrite/delete backups. Ask the community or share your knowledge. To translate this article, select a language. Close the new Central file. I want to just save a non-collaborative version of the model as a backup. If none of this works, I'm not sure what to do without screenshots or copies of the model. So, basically I am not able to detach this file from the Architect's central file and make it a separate, non-worksharing enabled file, as I like to do. For Revit It is also important to do folder mapping in the same way on all computers. Before you create a new central model, be sure to rename the workshared file or specify a different directory path before saving. He checks also path to mapped letter - diffrences cause problems. In my experience, clients like it when you tell them they are asking for something that is going to cause trouble down the line. Hence why it is checked and greyed out. I'm curious as to why you need to enable worksharing if what you want to do is detach from central. I can do that just fine. Initial status is based on when the file was last opened. If you discard work sets the detached model becomes truly detached and now a non-collaborative model. No Home Folder configured. So it needed to become a central model to be utilized within our company before being sent back to the architect for collaboration. Thanks for the reply, Yes the users have full permissions to the directory. Opens specified worksets. More posts you may like r/StructuralEngineering 10 days ago Switching jobs 106 50 r/StructuralEngineering Hi Lynda. Learn how to Detach a file from a Revit Central Model and the difference between the 2 options. Give me Kudos or mark as a solution if this helps. When doing MEP, the architect's model is usually linked into the MEP central model. The file is now the central model for the project. Go to Solution. As stated in my previous post User A has full access to local My Documents folder and Revit is pointing to the correct Default Path, I also tried changing the path to c:\revit but that did not work. How to create a central model file with Autodesk Revit from a project file, setup basics of collaboration and worksets, also how to create Local files to have multiple users in a project and how to monitor who and what is happening within the project. This file is still completely separate from your working file because . You hijacked a thread with an question different from the topic. Working on a project with several central files. If the Create-New Local is grayed out, as in the image below, this is a red flag and you should NOT proceed. After reviewing your file, click the recovery button to get it back. When I open the file I get the following message This Central model has beencopied or moved from \\servername\project1\revit to N:\project1\revit. Maybe it has been detached in the past? Thanks for nothing Rob. 7. At least thats what i got from working with BIM360, don't know about the latest version of BIM360 and might change with future versions of BIM360 and/or Revit. That doesn't mean I don't know what how to use Revit. In the Collaborate dialog, select Collaborate within your network and click OK. Make this a Central Model after save, Option unchecked & not greyed out. To determine whether it is possible to access the central model, try to copy the central model from the network to local system. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Sync w/ Central and be sure to relinquish all rights. If I did, I will write a followup. Or at least it used to. Ok man, just in the slightest case you are not a bored internet troll I will tell you that almost none of the architects use the cloud or collaboration tools correctly. It's funny how people who know that they are wrong lash out and make excuses. If it has worksets, it has to be a central model. The issue is the local is maintained by Revit and is handled automatically, but can be accessed, copied, backuped as it's located on you're local drive. Controlled Folder Access has been enabled, Revit Help: View Access to the Central File and Local Files, Revit Pure: Hot to use central and local files in Revit, Do not sell or share my personal information. In the File Save Options dialog, select Make this a Central Model after save. They do not care and they most definitely in the most unambiguous terms do NOT WANT TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO. Detached from Central Model, Open it. The main complaint is that it causes sync to be too slow or that things move around too much while multiple disciplines are working on the model simultaneously, i.e. Solved by Darin_HDR. FILE > OPTIONS > FILE LOCATIONS > "Default path for user files". Welcome to Autodesks Revit MEP Forums. Browse. If Member B then attempts to create a new local file it is disabled as the location mapping varies. When browsing to a central file to start working in a project, the 'Create New Local' option is grayed out in Revit: Only the 'Detach from Central' option is available when attempting to work with the central file. That means you are not opening a Central Model, but a local model. Also, have a look at THIS ARTICLE which also provides some other possibilities. My options when I open the file to detach from central or to create new. If you can't find it, you can always Save As this file as Main Model, and start again from there. The alternate has since been discarded but now every time I open the File I get a message " this local file has been copied" and tells me that in order to fix this I must save as the central file. Press Ctrl+A to select all worksets in this dialog. The workflow for using Collaboration for Revit does not include the manual creation of local files. I deduced the HELPFUL user would know how to correct it and I commented on this thread assuming it may notify him of a new comment. Maybe they are not aware of the implications of what they are asking or someone misunderstood their instructions. If you put your question into your favorite search engine, you will find the information that you are looking for. The Select detach destination dialog opens. It is good advice to use a folder location that does not depend on user permissions to access it. are you the owner of all worksets in the Central model? Thanks for the suggestion. You just have to go into the newly created file and make it collaborative. But to your question, why don't I do the option you suggested, the reason is because it is more time consuming and I shouldn't have to. By sending copies for collaboration they control revisions that are sent out and can internally check and correct issues before other people spend time trying to match up with things that are temporary. At that point they just need to make that new file a central model again.Collaborate Tab > Click worksets button > then click OK to enable worksharing > then click OK again > then save and close the file. The problem is that you didn't detach from central when you created your copy of the original model - the two are still linked, just like the local file in your documents folder does. Below are a few other steps I've tried from browsing this and other forums. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. Solved by rudi.roux. 8.Now you are on your new local file copy. Local server shared model: Make this a Central Model after save, Option - unchecked & not greyed out. For example, if your central model is called OfficeBuilding_CentralFile, you see the project file and the backup folder (OfficeBuilding_CentralFile_backup) in the directory. If you want to work with multiple users on the same Revit project, you need to create a central file. Please for the love of dog go have a great day being productive somewhere. Whatpuchaczmsuggestedwas the cause of my issue. Am I missing something? The issue can be reproduced by having twoproject members accessa project file. This path: \\Ed2-rvaldes\3354_residencial habana, The path is of the central file is: D:\01_PROYECTOS\3354_RESIDENCIAL HABANA\160_ANTEPROYECTO\01_REVIT. did you dettach from central when opening ? See the following article for information on:Autodesk support for Distributed File System (DFS). \appdata\local\Autodesk\Revit\\CollaborationCache\\. If you keep work sets the detached modelbecomes a new central model. The next dayafter the affected user came back from lunch he had the same issue where the Create New Local was greyed out when opening the same file. Change the default path for user files to something other than the C drive or (the windows installed drive), and then try to create the local file again. let me know if you might know what the issue might be. Do not sell or share my personal information. To enable worksharing and create a central model. Resurrecting an old thread. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Synchronize and reload work like new and metadata is OK. | BIM Implementer, Project & BIM Manager, Coordinator, MEP Engineer. This limited access in my case was driven by rollback of central file after corrupting some of the families inside the model. But this won't workFor revit It is not the same. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. I followed the same instructions as before and it fixed it for the affected user but now nobody else could create new local. The example below is from the point of view of an Architectural firm. I have looked this up and followed the steps indicated but my "save as central" is always greyed out as is "open workset default". For Open workset default, select one of the following. I tried that with the same results, the initial PC can open it with Create New Local but the other PC's can't. Fabio Itiro Sato| @fabioisato| Fabio Sato. Try having another project participant attempt to open the central file to rule out a profile/system-specific issue. However, when I go to Save As and select Options, the box for 'Make this a Central Model after save' is checked and greyed out so I cannot uncheck it. Can't find what you're looking for? How to create a Central Model with Autodesk Revit SeilerSolutions 5.15K subscribers Subscribe Share 21K views 2 years ago Design Solutions / CAD This video will show you how to start with a. Select File tab in Revit- Options. Next let me say I like to be snarky so please don't take this as a direct attack or me not being thankful you took the time to respond. 'Accept as solution' . This problem is caused by limited access ID to the central file. Welcome to Autodesks Revit MEP Forums. Hopefully the central file error message should be gone when they open the new file. Can't find what you're looking for? Oh geez sus kriste - I know that. If I detach it, it becomes a new file and i cant sync back to the original file. If a corrupt file is received, invalid filehandle, or past its end message, the central file may need to be, Make sure to have enoughhard disk space free: See. Audit the model and be prepared to possible loss of work. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Do not sell or share my personal information. Thanks. Forum Discussions and Support AEC Revit Revit Platform Support They remain disabled unless you select a project file that has already that has already had the Worksharing features enabled. then re-open the file and make sure to that create new local is checked. If you can do that without an error, verify that it's the original and not the alternate model. Revit creates the file in the directory you specified and creates a backup folder for the file. Revit just doesn't give you the option right when you open the file and detach, you have to first save it and then make it a new central model. Opening a file created in a newer version of Revit (less often) File is a Local file (user copied a local over a central) The network path at each workstation is not the same as each other (very likely culprit) Also, have a look at THIS ARTICLE which also provides some other possibilities. That's the kindest way to make sure any of their changes are sync'd with the project. All suers are in the same OU in Active Directory. Kudos are always welcome . You are about to open a Revit model using a different version of Revit You are about to OPEN the central model that is partially or completely corrupt. Central file must be accessed by all users on the same location. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Revit Architecture topics. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? When you open a Main Model, if you dont't uncheck "Create Local Model", Revit creates automatically a Local Model in your Documents folder. Make this a Central Model after save, Option - checked & greyed out. If you're using the central model and getting that error, try opening a detached copy of your local file. The first file I opened was a model received from an Architect. Solved by marcin.puchacz. I am checking the file path under their login. Whatever you can still create and work with this central model file. We all open the central file and it allowes us to use the check box to creat a local file for ourselves. I sincerely hope you didn't synchronize this second model after you created it, because if you did you probably just made your original model a duplicate of the copy. If Member A opened and saved the project as a central file,Create New Localwould work fine for Member A. If you want this file to remain a central file, resave the file as a central file.". Over the years, I have had many firms ask me how to create a Revit Central Model. Check the file paths for local files in the Revit options from the start menu - it's possible you can't create a new local because you don't have write permission in the directory Revit is aimed at. Hope this makes sense and thanks for helping me understand this. The only reason this folder location might be to blame is when there is a folder capacity limit applied and it is too full for Revit to make and store a new local file. As the location mapping varies & # x27 ; t have this problem is that is! If this helps, known as a central model after save, Option - checked & amp not. You discard work sets the detached modelbecomes a new central model than trying to and. For all my Revit modles and revit make central file greyed out doesnt matter where its saved or version... 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