Ive read a ton of stories from people who were pushed, and their health was badly hurt. The thing to watch for is a change in how they behave. Even though I cant even do hosting as much as Id like and my home is a bit of a mess. Or maybe your boyfriend hasnt really been invested from the beginning and what seemed like an effort on his part was simply because he felt obliged to try since you gave him such strong signals early on. That does not sound like respect. Thanks for this post, Captain and LW. The hurt and pain are felt by both people involved, but if your ex regrets what happened, they might be looking to get a reaction out of you. Granted, I know manipulative people who are in total denial that they are so, and are sure everything they are doing is for other peoples good (again, back to the 5-year-old Im helping!). And when he lost a bunch of weight as a side effect of a new medication, suddenly all of his insecurities about it were transferred to passive-aggressively fatshaming me. It can be hard to wait through the change. I did not in fact give up he left me. Cosigned. And he tried to change me, too (although I was worse): he was always trying to get me to relax more, to spend less time working and instead build my schedule around him. LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. I have friends who spell it shud because they think its a four-letter word. Good luck LW, and I hope you get to see how much better life can be when someone isnt actively holding back your awesomeness. Very well said. I feel like Ive learnt to spot the signs now, but I really didnt see them when I was less experienced. You are more important than he is. All the love and respect in the world, dear Terrible. I think you are going to be just fine and that you know what is best for you. In some cases, he may have forgotten how strong your connection was. 1) They're guilty and regretful about the breakup When a relationship ends, there's a lot of emotion that's at play. I personally believe strongly that relationships work best when your partner loves you and likes you as you are now, while also supporting you growing and changing to become the version of yourself you aspire to be. Flee! One more reason for doing so, as soon as its possible. And its difficult for you to explain this to him, because the Depression Demons are whispering that hes right, so you feel guilty and emotional about it all; so then its Emotional You v Logical Him and things get horrible very quickly. Or something like that, anyway. If your social group feels patch and thin, take steps to meet new people. Stating your boundaries might just bring his own discomfort into the open. This would be crappy behavior from a parent toward a child, even. This helped my husband and I when I was diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. It is better to be on your own than to have the weight of someone elses expectations on you. I feel like this self-help book is the equivalent of the biggest Fight Club on earth. So, my friends often come over here. Ive been dealing with depression for a while, too. Why dont we call it quits, then, and see if somebody else might not make you happier?. For a relationship to survive a crisis like that, you have to like the person (not just love them) and respect the person (not just love them). He felt justified in hurting my feelings as long as it was based in reason.. You are doing exactly what you need to do, and do not need to do more because someone else says so. When this happens with one of my friends girlfriends I usually catch myself actually being nicer to her. He had his arm around you even if it was hot outside and he never stopped using pet names to call you babe, sweetheart, baby girl. And will often ask if I want icecream instead He says that he still loves me even if I dont do these things (but it doesnt feel that way to me). You see, even though neither of us is a terrible person and we both had really good intentions and cared for each other, we had gotten into a deep pattern of being good for each other (even though we werent) and supporting [Partner] (even though we werent) and staying together because we needed that (even though we didnt). That looks like progress to me. You cant have all your food be treats otherwise youre not actually eating healthy food, but they are needed or you burn out and develop an eating disorder. Look, Im sure there are people out there who respond to tough love or whatever bullshit he thinks he is doing, but frankly, Ive never met someone struggling with depression and low self-esteem who did. OK, so let us assume for a moment that your boyfriend is not actually a Raging Arsehole whos trying to create his own Stepford Girlfriend, and that he genuinely is trying to help you. And sometimes the answer is I cant. Im rooting for you, LW, because this was one of the toughest ongoing issues in our relationship for a while, and I had to show him that what works as treatment for some people cant be applied to everyone broadly and without that persons permission. Its an unfortunate reality that some couples are couples not because they are passionately in love, but because its easier to stay together than it is to break up. I have been in a relationship for 2 years with a wonderful person who has low moods too. Im so frustrated that youre hurting, and that I cant do more to help your recovery. Reasonable. If I tell him I already did, he tells me that walking doesnt count, that it needs to be more strenuous exercise. As I was reading the original letter, I was thinking that the question ought to be how to break up with him. Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. He has literally never done this. He wants LW to do these things so he doesnt have to deal with depressed LW (he thinks). It didnt! You know that already because you are experiencing it first hand. ? when someone is abused.). When someone we know cheated on a beloved partner, he had trouble wrapping his head around why someone would possibly do that. Examine your behavior. To be honest, Im in a long-term relationship with a dude who is otherwise pretty damn great, but occasionally he comments on my wellbeing in a way that gets my back up (like telling me the severity of my issues is getting worse when Im acutely aware that its because Im under stress, or making it out that Im imposing Difficult Family Members on myself when its either manage a difficult visit or not see my family, ever). Youre seeing a therapist, and making strides, youre clearly doing exercise and stuff. Drownings letter feels very familiar. No one can acknowledge it exists. I expect him to monitor his health and to take as much action as he can when hes feeling bad, just as LW is doing. If you cannot help someone, and being with that person is hurting you as well, putting some distance may be the healthiest choice. And I think thats something a lot of people have trouble with, especially when they have an idea of how the right way to be is (Ive noticed that people who tend to be rational often have trouble with this that other people make decisions that they would not make and other people have reasons for those decisions that are just as real as their reasons for doing something different). Seriously. Its something weve learned. This was where I got very concerned. Once we finally separated, my depression has not returned. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Can I have a word of encouragement when you have a moment?, hell send me a You can do this or I believe in you when he gets the chance, which is all I really need. Most girls take at least an hour, and then they are more than happy to make their man wait for them. He wants all the security of a relationship thats already there, the inertia that he hopes will keep the two of you together, so he doesnt have to put forth the effort and pain and anxiety of finding a new person. Do either of you even know whether those goals are achievable? Well, thats it, isnt it? 3. I need you to scrub the toilet is reasonable you need to do more vigorous exercise isnt. How does this affect you will work on a reasonable person. Also, if its pre-arranged (and do make sure she agrees, of course), its harder to back out than it is to decide not to go over to see somebody else. Its possible. Like theyd be SO PERFECT IF THEY DID A B AND C. Unfortunately, the reality is that they are not there. Its inexcusable in any of those forms!!! Try Meetup.com, a class, finding an exercise buddy who is at your level and who likes to do the same stuff you like, volunteering. I think you can tell dude that the things he is doing are not helping and that your therapist agrees with you (assuming therapist does and I think therapist is your number one go to about this) and also give him things he *can* do to help you when you are feeling down. My biggest mistakes have been to really harp on what I think he needs to do get out and be social, mainly, which doesnt help his depression and leads to resentment as well. In some cases, he may have been enjoying chasing you more than having caught you. have your own lives outside of each other. And I have to say, each and every guy whos shown interest in me but has said things like Youd be a lot prettier if you exercised (I walked 3-5 miles a day because I didnt have a car) and/or who has tried to get me to do something about my apparently embarrassingly large backside (its genetic, you fucking fucks!) Anonymous. What does your therapist say about the way your boyfriend tries to continually act as your self-appointed monitor/life coach? and it helped him maintain his desired weight/made him feel good and he thought it was delish so it meant that I should. But that makes deliberately exercising seem like Im bowing down to that warped idea of my self-worth. After a couple of years of therapy a light bulb clicked on over my head that I surprise! What he could and did do that helped me was: 1) shop for food and cook the healthy meals for us himself, and not guilt me when I planned to cook and then. He may be feeling like he is missing out on his life and it is time to get back into the single life. Except now the LW is in therapy, things are getting better, the LW has a handle on it allbut Boyfriend still hasnt internalized this. He can then act like he is doing you a favor by being with you. A person who is invested in their role as the Helper and in your role as Lumpy Clay Who Must Be Sculpted is going to try to convince you that setting boundaries here is not in your best interest. No is not an argument or a conversation, and youve said no to him his continuing to push, to decide for you how your body should be, how your life should be, is not okay. (and having dated somebody like LWs partner in the past when I was severely depressive I really kind of just want to SHOOT HIM.). There are many negative reactions a person can have when interacting with a depressed partner. Dont let b/f make you feel otherwise, and if he cant change, dont be afraid to walk away. LW, if his advice and criticisms increase as you gain self esteem and do better, he may have real self esteem and control issues of his own. He had money and I didnt. The sex may not dwindle, but the cuddling will. I didnt do it for you. Make lifestyle changes to ensure you're getting enough sleep, eating healthy diet, and exercising regularly. So far so good. Logic and reason are critical thinking tools. And of course if theyre dodgy they tend to do it in a way that seems sufficiently different from our terrible family situation to be very well at least they dont do X thing. Then, at the end of any date, I got this huge guilt trip if I didnt show gratitude. When your boyfriend just slithers away leaving you completely confused and broken hearted, it adds to the suffering. For example, he seems to want a skinny girlfriend, and she wants a boyfriend who isnt a nagging douchecanoe. One cannot Straw Vulcan of Superior Reasoning their way into ones partner conforming exactly to ones own standards both internally and externally. When your brain says ok, Im done exercising today, and instead of that being paired with anticipation of his disapproval, there is just sweet, sweet self-accepting silence. Applauding your friends and remembering this one for future use. This was highlighted in the response, but what JUMPED out at me was the bf not wanting the LW to be comfortable, because fuuuuck that. When you were sick, it was probably easy for him to get you to do what he wanted. Or because he has decided you arent feeling magically better enough yet? What do you do when your boyfriend stops making an effort? Helpful. If your guy used to care and suddenly cant be bothered, thats a red flag. A friend of mine called this sort of explanation, First, the earth cooled, Beware of I am very logical as a cover for I dont think your feelings matter and I dont care if I hurt you.. Nope, cant recall this either. And when Spouse or I are depressed, the other one will say Hey, lets go for a walk! And sometimes we go, and the Depressed One says I feel better. If youve ever had that feeling of emptiness in the pit of your stomach, when you realize your boyfriend stopped making an effort to make things work with you, this article is for you. Do you want to be with someone who never likes you for you? But everything you say about this dudetells me that hes more in love with Potential You than he is with Actual, Right Here You. He used to love calling you his girlfriend, he never missed an opportunity to flaunt you off as if everyone was supposed to know that this time its serious. Worst case scenario, it can lead to more blatant abuse (sounds like he already has manifested abusive tendencies with the name calling and the silent treatment). Sometimes when Im feeling bad I take on some momentary discomfort as an investment in my future happiness. What were his biggest complaints about you during this time period where he stopped trying so hard anymore? I saw progress though, and it made it easier to wade though until it was resolved. Yeah, there were also lots of couples who socialized together officially when there was an Official Occasion, while spending the rest of their time with their respective lovers (totally with each others knowledge and tacit consent). We spent an hour together crafting a long list of things he could do for me, with me. You know that he is flirting with those other girls, even if you cant see him do it. There is something intimate about sweating next to your partner. Think hard and make plans. 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